With all due respect I think you missed the point of my post? I respect that... you just didn't understand what I was saying based on what I read here...

I agree with everything you say.

A big part of it was that I got sucked into your attack on Christian bassists.

That kind of stuff hurts feelings man!

And combining it with all the other reasons I listed...

I was asked WHY I left myspace by several individuals I answered why... that’s all man.

And now to see what you fellas are CONTINUING to do on myspace making fun of me?

It’s just really frustrating

I guess I am still not sure what I personally did to either of you to be included in the joke you guys have going

I was offended; I was NOT in the group of bassists who wronged you to start this ball rolling

And I posted the info on MY yahoo group to let several friends know who converse almost exclusively through myspace with me that I am not there...

Among other points I made in my intense frustration over appearing on your hurtful satire Jesus fist page

I agree with all you say on both sides of the coin above, and I guess I was subliminally suggesting or trying to anyway point out the things you just stated...

you have a much better way with words than I

I just think some folks take it way to seriously... way more than a great promotional tool and i was starting to become consumed by some of those folks...

maybe they will be good friend someday just like MANY that i have met online but for me i am getting spread to thin and am struggling in many areas in life bacause of it

I totally respect it if you don't "care" about why I quit myspace

LOL

I wasn’t posting my explanation to tell the world...

its my yahoo group, its several years old and it was initially a quick easy way to tell the majority of my long distance friends that my myspace portal has been disconnected... letting then know to contact me elswhere

And I guess by posting while I was super upset I went overboard

GBC

and yes i see my name in the bold letters very clever

but what gives man?

what is yo beef wit me?

and there is a "P" in CamPbell...

;)

greg - chill my brutha - it's all in good fun.

for real.

This post isn't just about you and your decision.

It's about several musicians recently complaining about myspace.

Your decision to quit is fine. Your reasons about your kids is totally respectable.

This post was inspired by your decision - yes.

But it's about MySpace in general and the general complaints I listed above that came from SEVERAL other musicians.

I put your name in code because that's how I roll. It's amusing. to me.

Plus I wanted to see if anyone was paying attention.

The internet is a vast playground. I like to play.

And as far as the christian bass alliance - I don't think that I ever even talked to you about that or included you in the issue.

If you take my post about that issue as an "attack" on christian bassists I'd suggest taking a few minutes to re-read it. It's pretty level headed if I do say so myself.

Regarding Jesus Fist.

That is a developing performance art/music project that combines twisting the use of electric bass guitars with biting & sardonic satire on the contemporary state of christianity and the world at large.

It's going to offend lots of people. It will also thrill & engage others.

So is the nature of art with a controversial message. That'll be our cross to bear. Pun intended.

Both Jay and I have access to that page and we very often do things to it without consulting each other.

That your name was listed among the "people we'd like to meet" wasn't meant to upset you.

I'm sorry it did. Even though I think it's kinda silly.

That's why when we realized it did upset you we thought we'd twist the knife a bit.

So - I'm sorry Greg - but it now appears you are written deeply into the developing mythology of the Fist.

We're not sure - but we think you might actually be Demond Wilson.

It's ok my friend. It's on the internet. It's not really real.

word.

not THE word.

just word. ,-)

see ya @ namm!

(((And as far as the christian bass alliance - I don't think that I ever even talked to you about that or included you in the issue...)))

true... but my name was included... in on the satire. implying in my mind that i must have done something to be a part of the rebuttle

i was irritated at the "alliance" you mention on your behalf, i thought it sucked that that happened to you

and then i stumbled upon my name and was like what the heck?

I understand, Demond.

But I should point out - just because you found out about the Alliance and THEN about The Fist doesn't mean they are related or that there's causality at play.

The Fist was born on June 4th 2007.

ahh...

well then the existance of the fist could have been what triggered the cancellation of your performance?

of course i don't know if the fist's myspace page existed at the capacity i found it when your schedualed performance ended up cancelled

is possible.

but I think I was canceled off the gig WEEKS before I found out (which is totally fine) it's just that no one told me til the day of the gig.

And while it's on subject - the koffeehouse dude DOC said he'd pay for my hotel room.

To date he still hasn't paid me.

I guess bold face lies aren't a sin.

Or I suppose he just asked jesus for forgivness and he's been absolved of his lie.

All I know is that in the neo-church of The Fist, the liar dude would have been Tased in a highly humiliating public ritual.

The blood of the innocent has been spilled.

The undead FIST has unclenched its tennis ball and risen from the soil.

The reaping of lost souls has begun.

Rambling treatises come face to face with a man, no, EVIL.

On October 31st, Halloween, THE PUNISHER will present an audio/visual sacrifice to all non-believers and all non-church goers who do not believe and who do not go to church.

You will pay for your sins.

You will see my black turtlenck.

You will feel the wrath of my blackened latex skin.

For I am the son of HIM.

And HE commands me to put down the fake dumb knife purchased on E-Bay (used in the movie).

HE tells me to show the world how to love.

JacoP, our Lord and Savior, o' holiest of holies, lowest of lowies, needleist of needlies, commands Ruiner and I show you how to play "The Chicken".

You do not know what you have done.

For I am the BOOGEYMAN and I shall come upon you like furious pudding, stampeding over those who do not want to believe.

You are sleeping!!

Come on, come over,

D. Wilson
(Co-Pastor)
http://www.myspace.com/demondwilson69

Ahhh and I have been tased by the fist myself metaphorically!

;)

Not having fun either…

But speaking of tasing, I really dug that song "don't tase me bro" it was alarming! In a thought provoking way

Well, that sucks about the gig and the hotel. Just remember it’s the people, the individuals and not the religion.

and yes lying IS a sin...

in Christianese: let GOD deal with that gentleman... as they say, don't stoop to the same level? if you have been wronged just continue being a good guy and let God deal with that guy...

its like elementary school playground ethics

Deciding to hate Christians as a whole for what other Christians have done to you or how they appear in public is EXACTLY like “racism”

You are hating on a group for what an individual or individuals have done up to date.

I am not like other Christians. And I just did not dig being included in the satire.

I just don’t see how I had that coming?

OH WELL… I guess one thing I learned from your words during another of my internet spankings was the old adage “any publicity good OR bad, is good publicity”

The way that finally hit home was the time you said it was time for you to get a nine string for all the commotion it caused.

;)

When you said that… that trite cliché adage finally REALLY made sense to me!

I don't recall making a 9 string comment in regards to the christian thing. If I did I don't remember the context.

As far as "hating" - that's extreme.

I'd find it ironic that adherents to the theology that legitimized the epistemological abortion of "Hate the Sin - Not the Sinner" would be unable to appreciate the variant at the core of Fistianity - "Hate the Religion, Not the Religious".

Let's not even begin to address why the word "hate" would appear in ANY reasonable interpretation of the ideas of christ in the first place. But that's why it's ripe for parody, mockery and fun!

I also find it amusing that most adherents to dogmatic groups want to have it both ways.

The want the power & security that belonging to a belief group provides - but also they want autonomy - and the freedom from being "lumped in" with the group when it suits them.

That's the problem with all dogmatic movements. they still operate on the old school idea that gaining "MASS" is all that matters. Totally ignoring quality. So they end up with legions of retards running around doing stupid shit in their name.

Which is why the neo-church of The Fist is highly discriminatory.

,-)

oh you are correct, the 9 string comment had nothing to do with any of this Christian topic...

it was unrelated, i thought what you said was cool though when it was said...

concerning the word "hate" i did not mean to put words in your mouth...

and i agree

Why would HE, the 9 string avenger/son of Agoroth, parody the great Demond "The unparodied one" Wilson in the public space? What makes HIM go out on Halloween and violate the sanctity of a defenseless chicken while wearing a black turtleneck?

JacoP, our Lord and savior will not tolerate such blasphemy.

On Oct. 31, Halloween, you will all learn.........you will all learn.........

"How To Quit The Internet In 9 Easy Steps", by Demond "P-Soup" Wilson, Ph.D

Current mood: scared

Category: Dreams and the Supernatural

"How To Quit The Internet In 9 Easy Steps", by Demond "P-Soup" Wilson, Ph.D

FOREWARD:

"I'm pretty sure that you can understand why I have been like, completely freaking out. The INTERNET is an evil, evil beast."

As many of you know, your god-given freedom to express yourself is slowly but surely being taken away. You might not notice it at first, but the INTERNET has been recruiting DARK SIDED spies to spread its caustic seeds. Villagers all over the world are screaming "DANGER, FEAR, DANGER" and some of you have been listening quite intensely. Some of you have even decided to take a stand for yourself and fight the INTERNET face to face, one on one, without any protection or tactical/militarily-schooled skill set. This is a bad idea.

Quitting the INTERNET without a sound exit strategy affects everyone. Some of you have even gotten back online and rejoined the INTERNET just days after you quit the INTERNET. One by one, as you shamelessly quit the INTERNET, you slowly loosen the tight noose around its neck. You've just destabilized all the work that JESUS FIST has put in to protect the unsaved from the INTERNET. The inner core of the juggernaut called the INTERNET has just grown stronger and deadlier. Bandwidth is no longer an issue. You have just quit the INTERNET. You have also sped up the syrupy digestive juices of the INTERNET. Your poor choice has unfortunately, made the INTERNET stronger and deadlier than you could possibly ever imagine.

Therefore, my fellow Co-Pastor, the esteemed Wretched Reverend Ruiner Severhead and I have decided that we must take a stand and do something for our country, dominion, and coven. We have written an easy to follow maniFISTo that hopefully helps you quit the INTERNET and teaches you to hide yourself as appropriate. At this stage, we will release the written contract that all of us must endure if we truly wish to be saved from the INTERNET.

Here are the initial written steps that you can undertake on behalf of JESUS FIST. There will be a subsequent audio release called "The Jesus Fist Tapes" that addresses these quick and easy steps in more detail.

Step 1: "DANGER, FEAR, DANGER":
-Call as many close friends and family as you can and let them know that you are quitting the INTERNET. If you are an active member in a powerful online community, immediately notify them as well.

Step 2: "SEVERED":
-Go to your computer apparatus or wireless hand-held device and delete your cookies, cache, bookmarks, and contact list. You are slowly but surely becoming SEVERED from the INTERNET. Now, immediately disconnect your communicational devices from their blood ports (the basic electrical lifeline that the INTERNET takes souls from), but only after you have notified close friends and family that you are attempting to quit the INTERNET.

Step 3: "RIGHTEOUS DISCIPLINE":

-Borrow someone else's computer or wireless device so that you can keep a detailed account of the methodology that the INTERNET is utilizing to track you down and hold you accountable for speeding up its voracious appetite for unsaved souls. The INTERNET won't stop until it has inflicted righteous discipline on you (or, until you have rejoined and then successfully re-quit the INTERNET).

Step 4: "BOUND":

-The INTERNET knows ALL. You are BOUND to its services. It hunts down what tries to escape from its clutches. Did you delete your cookies, did you delete you cache, did you remember to delete your bookmarks and contact lists like we told you to? If not, your computer still remembers where you've been and where you are running to. It's still alive. Go back and follow Step 2. Quitting the INTERNET requires intense concentration and faith.

Step 5: "IN THE NAME OF…":

-At this step, you should keep your doors bolted shut, get down on your knees, and pray in HIS name. Even if you don't care what the INTERNET thinks about your desire to quit, it does. It has been suggested that all who try and flee the ruinous path of the INTERNET, go onward and "SHUT THEIR GODDAMNED MOUTH UP!" so that no one else gets accused of trying to escape the system.

Step 6: "TALIBAN FOR CHRIST":

-The INTERNET will trick you and telepathically force you to call upon fellow TALIBANS to act on your behalf, passionately advocating for your release from the will of the INTERNET. Without question, the insidiously wicked INTERNET wants you to place the rest of your coven in jeopardy. You must not succumb to this trick. You must not call upon others for assistance once you decide to fight the INTERNET by yourself. You must move to the mountains and hide.

Step 7: "CONJURER":

-Do not, under any circumstances try to contact the INTERNET, even if you truly believe that you have successfully disconnected from its blood ports. Don't try to get the INTERNET to act on your behalf by begging for the deletion of content, artwork, or images that barely resemble the 3 letters of CAMEL, Conjurer of Sickness, he who walks among the dead. It will not respond. It will not advocate for your salvation.

Step 8: "UNSAVED":

-What would you do if the INTERNET was successfully compromised by JESUS FIST? How would you respond if JESUS FIST dried up the blood ports of the INTERNET and saved you from yourself? The audio wisdom within W.R. Ruiner Severhead's "JESUS FIST TAPES" has saved many, many lives. Do not refuse their graciousness. Quickly reconnect to the blood ports, download these tapes, and quickly disconnect again. Hopefully, the INTERNET didn't notice that you stole from HIM.

Step 9: "GOD FIST AMERICA":

-You have failed in your attempt to successfully quit the INTERNET. The INTERNET and its web of spies has taken you hostage and convinced you that you'll never escape. The sickness is inside of you. It has been there all along, since birth. The Cult of the NINES marking is upon your forearm. There is black branded ink for all to see and shudder away from.

But fear not. Praise be to THEIR holiness. You will NEED to embrace the arising neo-church/state of Jesus Fist! This is a religious war and The FIST is the only answer for a nation paralyzed with fear. JESUS FIST of America is the way to be! We will fight for your salvation!

I just did a google search about "The Cult Of The 9s" and I found this page.

I don't really understand your "9 steps" so maybe you should make a "often suggested inquiries" page?

Here's my point. I do manage a handful of impressionable teenage girls at a boarding school, some of whom have MySpace pages and appear to contact the INTERNET quite often.

If I notice that any of our girls has a brand or tattoo, should I e-mail you directly? What about if they carry around the hard-copy version of "The Da Vinci Codes"? Is this really something that we should be thinking about? How bad is it?

Thanks!!

I think you're all friggin insane.

Perhaps you'd all feel better after downloading - "The Jesus Fist Tapes" for free!

http://www.ruinerseverhead.com/jft/jesusfisttapes.html

well . . . . ?

whatcha waitin fo b'yotch!

--rs